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La question net pas d’être compétent dans un domaine ou d'avoir un bon bagage intellectuel ( des diplômes ) mais je pense que les parents attende de leurs descendance d'etre des soninké d’être des africain , d’être dans une optique d’avenir tournée vers l’Afrique et non vers l'individualisme ou le matérialisme qui sont les valeurs propre a l'occident d'aujourd'hui .

Tu souhaite dirigés une caisses de ton village ben ses simple apprend a communiquer de façon claire et précis en soninké , apprend les coutumes ou elle prend leurs source et au final pour quelle but , apprend l'histoire du soninké de l'empire OUAGADOUGOU a aujourd'hui .

Je ne dit pas que les enfants de France sont des bon a rien ceux qui est totalement faut je te donne juste l’image que la communauté soninké donne de nous je dit bien nous car moi aussi je suis née ici .

Oui on peut dire que les parents ne font pas forcément confiances en leur enfants et cet une erreur dans l'éducation et bien évidement que l'impacte sur les enfants est très péjoratif mais malgré tout ça il faut ce battre et continuer a avancé .

Mais nous qui somme née en France nous avons aussi une part de responsabiliser celle de faire un travail d'introspection de comprendre les choses le faite d’être en occident ce qui a pousser nos parents a venir ici pour quelle idéologie et optique d'avenir . On ce paire beaucoup trop facilement en occident on ce lèse trop facilement détourner de ce que nous sommes et au final ont deviens pire que les occidentaux .
Ka Kira,

M. Nas,

Before I make any commentaries on this dialogue, I would like to thank you very much for the translation. I was rather surprised that you did it so fast. Thanks a zillion.

I would like to draw your attention to the usage of a few words-Mande and Mandinga, the language and Mandingo, the people. When I talk of Mande, I am referring to a philosophy, a profound wisdom, a sacred knowledge that few are now aware of much less know anything about. It has gone underground because of the tyranny and demagoguery of the caliphs of Islam. But it lives and it is still to be found among some people in Mali, if no where else. If there are Sooninko and Kagoro who are not Muslims, you will invariably find some of this profound knowledge among them. For the general public, this is lost knowledge.

Now back to the dialogue. We should not fool ourselves in believing that Sooninkaaxu will exist in France or for that matter in the West in any meaningful manner other than a few making money while leaving behind a large percentage of Sooninko immigrant descendants in the ghettos. The sad part of the present situation is that the most dynamic of the Sooninko are the ones leaving Sooninkara to create the ghettos of France and England and other places. Of course, they are joined here by members of many other failed societies in the African continent.

The question is what can be done at the communal level to rescue as many of the children in poor schools to excel. What can the Sooninke communities in France do to give their children an excellent education? Only the language and Islam are holding the Sooninko together. By the third or fourth generation, both would have been lost. The French language will be their mother tongue and they will be content to live in the ghettos and do the best they can to survive caring for nothing else.

Please study the American ghetto. France too will develop a similar ghetto composed largely of the descendants of immigrants from her former colonies. Without community and right education, these descendants will remain pseudo-Frenchmen and women. Of course, those with brains and proper guidance will excel, get their diplomas and leave the ghetto. This is the pattern in the American ghetto. The immigrants are not integrated in the larger French society outside of the labor they provide at work. There is no social integration and there is not a chance for such an integration. The immigrant society is a separate entity. Now the larger question is whether it will remain separate as a conscious decision of the immigrants and their descendants and if so how it will survive as a living, vibrant society. Is there a way to give the immigrants excellent education without losing them to the integrated fringe society?

In the USA, the majority of immigrant children have rejected the world of their first generation parents. A small percentage joins the white middle class while the vast majority remains with the dwellers of the large American ghetto. Hip Hop is the only way that this class has managed to enter Main Street, as it is said here.

The question is can a community be created that will take of the children? The nuclear family will fail disastrously as two working parents will leave their children to school teachers. Mind you, these school teachers are not in Africa. This is the way they enter gangs and how the seedy lifestyle of gangland takes over. You may throw out Sooninkaaxu as it has failed the first generation of immigrants. What values will you teach them for they will largely reject Islam too or just pay it lip service?

So you see the dilemma. Their parents ran away from failed societies just to create another failed society on foreign soil. Without an enlightened immigrant society, this is exactly what is going to happen, another American style ghetto in the cities and towns of France and other European countries. Now go a little further. Bring in a scenario in which the European far right resurrects the ghost of Hitler and decides to do away with this vermin. If they could slaughter their own kind who converted to Judaism (six million of them by some counts) and if they could murder each other over religion and enslave the world of the descendants of the immigrants for over four hundred years, what are they not capable of?

The real question is there a future for the descendants of those who migrated from the colonies to France or for that matter in Europe? This is the real question. This is what we dialogue on. History teaches that extreme success or extreme failure by a non-integrated minority group are not taken well by the larger society particularly if the failed ones resort to crime and criminal behavior. Hitler wanted the Jew exterminated and many Europeans agreed with him. Do not accept the current support of the Jews as testimony that this was an isolated case. The next genocide may well be the descendants of immigrants because they are no longer needed, because they are largely black, because they do not adhere to middle class values and because they are followers of Mohammed among others.


Think on this.